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#6648 - 05/29/12 11:58 AM
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Great list! I like the oven roaster bag!
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#6649 - 05/29/12 01:55 PM
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Thanks, fella's-
That list has been pretty static for over 8 years now, and at least once a year I bail with only that bag for 3 to 4 days to "re-certify" content. I used to bail for a week at a time, but the wife wants to go and she wants to "enjoy" the trip (which invariably leads to more stuff than I want available) so the trips are shortened a bit. She has a BOB of sorts but that ain't enough either..............some you lose and some you LOSE. confused

But, the point is, an untested bag is just a bag- not a BOB.

Additionally, I like redundancy for critical items (2 is 1 and 1 is none). But you need to decide what is critical based upon what is in your brain (the CRITICAL piece of gear that eases the load on your back and gives you added flexibility and mobility). A 20 pound BOB will trump a 50 pound BOB every time (and the bag comes in at 3- 5 pounds empty).
-carl
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#6650 - 05/29/12 11:53 PM
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I've got to be honest, I don't own a BOB. Unless you can call my truck one, I've pretty much everything in it somewhere that will fit into the BOB classification. laugh

My only defense is that I rarely get too far away from my truck.
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#6651 - 05/30/12 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted By: Trumby;3718
I've got to be honest, I don't own a BOB. Unless you can call my truck one, I've pretty much everything in it somewhere that will fit into the BOB classification. laugh

My only defense is that I rarely get too far away from my truck.


Ian-
Your BOB is in your head as is much of mine. Think back to the days when you were mustering ...when your horse jumped a creek and impaled itself on a tree. I know the story and there is not one thing I would (or could) have done differently. Time in the bush (where you survive issues) is time in school.
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#6652 - 05/30/12 08:59 PM
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It's called the school of hard knocks. laugh
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#6653 - 05/30/12 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted By: Trumby;3830
It's called the school of hard knocks. laugh


Yeah, but taken as a whole, it is a darn good school. I rather like the pass/fail system of grading in that school. If ya fail, you are not here to tell about it. Graduates are few and far between ...and most of them have scars (or broken bodies) for diploma's.

Like when I broke my leg on Lost Johnny Creek, Montana (left tibia) preseason spotting Elk herds for a later hunt (which I never got to participate in), or when I broke my ankle in the Dollhouse region of Utah- what you do and whether or not you succeed is totally up to you. Broken limbs and vertical ground don't mix well. You can't "crawl" out and no-one is going to come get you.
You better have (and be) all you need.

While I don't want to repeat either course, they were great ways to learn what counts and what don't.
-carl
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#6654 - 05/30/12 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted By: Carl Theile;3834
Yeah, but taken as a whole, it is a darn good school. I rather like the pass/fail system of grading in that school. If ya fail, you are not here to tell about it. Graduates are few and far between ...and most of them have scars (or broken bodies) for diploma's.

Like when I broke my leg on Lost Johnny Creek, Montana (left tibia) preseason spotting Elk herds for a later hunt (which I never got to participate in), or when I broke my ankle in the Dollhouse region of Utah- what you do and whether or not you succeed is totally up to you. Broken limbs and vertical ground don't mix well. You can't "crawl" out and no-one is going to come get you.
You better have (and be) all you need.

While I don't want to repeat either course, they were great ways to learn what counts and what don't.
-carl


Wow, and I thought getting shin splints 5 miles from camp was bad. You have to be one tough SOB to make it out of those situations.

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#6655 - 05/31/12 02:01 AM
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You can read all the books, watch all the television shows, and consume all the Internet information available, but without getting out and living a bit, you truly miss so very much.

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#6656 - 05/31/12 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted By: Joshua R.;3844
Wow, and I thought getting shin splints 5 miles from camp was bad. You have to be one tough SOB to make it out of those situations.


...or maybe just dumb. My pappy always told me that if I was gonna be dumb, I'd better get tough:)

Here is a great example:


That is a doc in the background, photo taken after he did his handiwork.
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#6657 - 05/31/12 02:26 AM
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ya tough when you ask the doc if he can wrap up the bits for your cat. :D:D

All jokes aside, that's gotta hurt.
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