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#51175 - 08/07/18 12:16 AM Re: Hunting Pictures and Stories [Re: Trumby]
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Originally Posted By: Trumby

Actually Lyman's reloading handbook 48th lists IMR-4227 max as 24gns for the 240gn, I wouldn't try it as 21.6 seems to nearly fill the case, so it would be compressed. It does list my load as the most accurate of all tested and that's where I first got onto it.

I've read that hard cast will give too much penetration, but I can't see that applying too much with pigs. I've shot plenty of bores (SHOULDER SHOTS)with a 3006 and .303s without an exit hole, the smaller pigs might be a different story.


I don't have any experience hog hunting. I've always wanted to, but never lived any place with wild hogs. I've heard it talked about a 'plate' that is hard to penetrate which I assume is in the shoulder...??

My load will pass through small bear, say in the 150-lb or so range, if it's a double lung-type presentation. Shoulder shots, usually not, but nearly. I usually do not get pass-throughs on 200-lb+ animals, and never on big bear if in the shoulders. It will however crush both shoulders if the presentation is right. I used to shoot a fast 180-grain load, but had poor results with it on game. The other load just continues to perform for me. But holy smokes I'd hate to crank off 24 grains of H110/IMR4227 with a 240-grainer stuffed in the end of that brass!

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#51193 - 08/08/18 10:21 PM Re: Hunting Pictures and Stories [Re: Hard Knocks]
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Originally Posted By: Hard Knocks
But holy smokes I'd hate to crank off 24 grains of H110/IMR4227 with a 240-grainer stuffed in the end of that brass!


Me too! grin




Comments:
Pressure limits for this cartridge are the same in rifles or
handguns. High primers are an extraordinary danger in semiautomatic
rifles. Be extra careful. Cast bullets tend to foul the
gas piston in these same firearms and hence are not recommended
for use in the semi-autos.
In rifles with shallow multi-groove rifling cast bullet velocity
must be held to 1,600 fps. or less. The use of hard alloys and
maximum sizing diameters will also help accuracy in these
rifles.

Note: Loads shown in shaded panels are maximum.
288 Loads shown in bold designate potentially most accurate load.
* Designates the use of magnum primers.
+ Designates a compressed powder charge
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#51204 - 08/10/18 11:41 PM Re: Hunting Pictures and Stories [Re: Hard Knocks]
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Now here's a pic preparing supper. grin

He's actually a little fella found in the bush, quite alive, just having a sleep. grin

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#51212 - 08/12/18 11:51 AM Re: Hunting Pictures and Stories [Re: Hard Knocks]
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They sure do start off cute lol.

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#51222 - 08/12/18 07:37 PM Re: Hunting Pictures and Stories [Re: Hard Knocks]
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We sometimes would catch a sow with piglets with a dog, then the fun would begin by trying to catch all the little fellas by hand. grin
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#51227 - 08/13/18 05:34 PM Re: Hunting Pictures and Stories [Re: Trumby]
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Originally Posted By: Trumby
We sometimes would catch a sow with piglets with a dog, then the fun would begin by trying to catch all the little fellas by hand. grin


I can only imagine the racket they made ha!

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#51235 - 08/13/18 10:14 PM Re: Hunting Pictures and Stories [Re: Hard Knocks]
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Originally Posted By: Hard Knocks

I can only imagine the racket they made ha!


Yeah they start squealing pretty well when you catch them, we used to stick them into a sugar bag and they'd settle down after a while. smile

We had a pen for them back at home and would wash them down with kerosene, drench them and fed them up with grain.
Also marked all of the little boars.

They were great eating when they grew up to about half size.

We also sold plenty of them to a butcher back in those days, not sure how legal all that was. grin

He'd take them grown up and fattened, we slaughtered and dressed them and he would buy the bodies off us.
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#51261 - 08/16/18 03:58 AM Re: Hunting Pictures and Stories [Re: Trumby]
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Originally Posted By: Trumby
Originally Posted By: Hard Knocks

I can only imagine the racket they made ha!


Yeah they start squealing pretty well when you catch them, we used to stick them into a sugar bag and they'd settle down after a while. smile

We had a pen for them back at home and would wash them down with kerosene, drench them and fed them up with grain.
Also marked all of the little boars.

They were great eating when they grew up to about half size.

We also sold plenty of them to a butcher back in those days, not sure how legal all that was. grin

He'd take them grown up and fattened, we slaughtered and dressed them and he would buy the bodies off us.


I remember my dad telling stories of growing up in the Ozarks during the depression. There were domestic pigs and wild pigs running around and a good mix of half-wild ones too. Folks claimed any of them they could, although they just kept ranging wild. One neighbor's mark was to cut off a left ear. The neighbor on the other side would cut off the right ear. Grandad decided his mark would be to cut off both ears wink grin

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#51266 - 08/16/18 04:22 PM Re: Hunting Pictures and Stories [Re: Hard Knocks]
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At one time here we could put them through the sale yards, then came a swine fever scare and they stopped that.

It didn't stop us from catching then however. A lot of pigs we caught were on the vast wheat paddocks out there, they usually were in good shape to start with.

These days there is still a market for catching them and selling to chillers throughout the country towns. They are exported I believe to the continent as game meat.
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#51383 - 09/03/18 04:00 AM Re: Hunting Pictures and Stories [Re: Hard Knocks]
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Originally Posted By: Hard Knocks


I remember my dad telling stories of growing up in the Ozarks during the depression. There were domestic pigs and wild pigs running around and a good mix of half-wild ones too. Folks claimed any of them they could, although they just kept ranging wild. One neighbor's mark was to cut off a left ear. The neighbor on the other side would cut off the right ear. Grandad decided his mark would be to cut off both ears wink grin


We never earmarked them, my fault, marking here means (castration grin)

We would have if we were letting them mix with others.
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