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#39297 - 09/10/14 06:53 PM Re: Survival gear links [Re: Carl Theile]
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Originally Posted By: Carl Theile
Boy, that pole shift survival site is full of info!!!

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Most of the stuff there, after review, is fairly fundamental. Almost anyone with a farm or ranch background will chuckle a bit at the fact that someone actually wrote this info down. That said, there is some good info there.

-carl
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#39298 - 09/10/14 07:34 PM Re: Survival gear links [Re: Carl Theile]
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Originally Posted By: Carl Theile
Originally Posted By: Carl Theile
Boy, that pole shift survival site is full of info!!!

-CARL


Most of the stuff there, after review, is fairly fundamental. Almost anyone with a farm or ranch background will chuckle a bit at the fact that someone actually wrote this info down. That said, there is some good info there.

-carl

Yes, a lot of it is fundamental, but a good reference site just the same.

Another area of information that always interested me is the latest technology in fuel stoves.
Like many in my era, I grew up with a fuel stove, though my part was mostly packing the wood inside for my grandmother who was in charge of the cooking. grin
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#39301 - 09/10/14 07:50 PM Re: Survival gear links [Re: Carl Theile]
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I still like an old wood stove, but I like even better that they now have them set-up to control the air to the fire ...slows down the burn a bit, and saves on wood.

Here is one with soapstone sides (they hold heat longer):



-carl


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#39311 - 09/11/14 06:34 PM Re: Survival gear links [Re: Carl Theile]
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That's a good looking wood fire, not too dissimilar to the one that I have at the moment. Mine was made in New Zealand.

The one that I'm interested in also are the wood burning cook stoves, they can do so much more these days as compared to the one my grandparents and mother had.

http://www.esse.com/AU/
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#39344 - 09/13/14 10:11 PM Re: Survival gear links [Re: Carl Theile]
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I've had woodburning cookstoves all my life. The only issue I ever had with them is most are drafty and eat wood too fast. They have gotten better as you point out, but I want to go to the next level and have total air control as well as soapstone to hold heat.

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#39361 - 09/14/14 10:07 PM Re: Survival gear links [Re: Carl Theile]
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The one my grandparents had was started with wood and then turned over onto coal when it had heated up some.
My grandfather used to retrain pit horses and had access to free coal...

It wasn't the cleanest fire around, but it sure put out some heat. grin
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#39362 - 09/14/14 10:48 PM Re: Survival gear links [Re: Carl Theile]
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Agreed, not the cleanest. Anthracite coal is better than bituminous (because it is harder) but both will warm a body on a cold night. smile

I just can't get away from a good wood fire ...even the ones that don't put out much heat seem to warm the spirit as well as the old bones.

What is a pit horse?

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#39364 - 09/14/14 11:35 PM Re: Survival gear links [Re: Carl Theile]
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Originally Posted By: Carl Theile

What is a pit horse?

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Carl,
More commonly known as pit pony's was/are draft horse types bred for power and short enough to work down in the coal mines underground. They pulled the coal skips to the surface.

Many never saw daylight for many years, after working underground for so long they became ill tempered and also blindness was another problem. When brought out to the surface the poor buggers would stagger around unused to light. My grandfather, and I as his helper grin would retrain them and get their temperaments back in order. Some of them were beyond help though.

Constant handling and feeding, then being turned out to spell would have them back to mostly normal horses again, only to be taken back down into the underground mines to be put back to work. Actually it was very cruel, and often their handlers were cruel bastards as well. If my grandfather ever found out that a handler has miss handled a horse, he would pass the information back to the mine managers and the handler would get the sack.

An unpleasant part of Australia's mining history. These days it is all mechanization, of course.

Edited to add:

Here is a very old picture of my grandfather who rared me. With one of his horses "Drowdy". I swear he could talk to them in their language, even the most frightened horse seemed to expel air and walk up to him. He was part Torres Straight Islander, but had worked with horses his entire life.


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#39396 - 09/15/14 03:50 PM Re: Survival gear links [Re: Carl Theile]
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Very cool little history lesson. Good on your Grandfather for taking care of the horses that way. Thanks for sharing.

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#39398 - 09/15/14 04:25 PM Re: Survival gear links [Re: Carl Theile]
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Great story there Ian. And an awesome picture.
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